Down here we use what works, regardless of brand name. And that stuff works for certain applications. Don't knock it until you try it. BTW - Before implying that Turtle Wax brand is beneath your standards, perhaps you should check out this post you made where you mention you use a Turtle Wax Product: [ http://twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1982669&forum=general&dtSearch=10 ]